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    GaryC - I will give you some real abuse if you like, pathetic, grow a pair. You clearly need to find out what abuse really is.

    Expressing a different viewpoint derived from a different experience does not equal a lie otherwise I could equally accuse you of being a liar. Likewise describing a view expressed as, for instance naive, is not abuse in the way saying the person himself is naive might be.

    It seems to me that there are things that you do not like to hear and being unable to frame a proper response resort to the rubbish above. Look to yourself Gary.

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