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    Yes Doctors do take a wage from treating the sick, but under the system provided by the state the 'stakeholders' (to use that term) are the same people receiving the 'product'. It is reciprocal and the human process is qualitative. Doctors are paid well (and rightly so) for their expertise and professionalism. Once again political point scoring has attempted to turn this into a quantitative process which has brought us to this point, that ultimately concludes in someone putting a price on a human life. As a society we value doctors not for how many patients they treat but the job they do and pay them accordingly by a pay structure set by the state.

    As for pharmaceuticals that one is for separate debate as you could argue them to be commodity (quantitative) or the intellectual property to be qualitative. But as many producers are multinational it doesn't fit this argument.

    The second as a society we regard the well being of our nation as a quantifiable profit based exercise is the second we regress. By the nature of maintaining wellbeing, it is entropic and that is why the NHS needs some kind of reform. Remember that the vast majority of british private sector health workers are trained at the expense of the tax payer with no compensation from the private sector to the state. We all know what happened with our transport system being privatised. We pay more in subsidies for a poorer service, allowing shareholders to make a profit...more choice, I think not.

    As for charities paying, where does this money come from? Or do we rely on philanthropists? I think Cadburys was sold off by the same bloke who put up our gas bills and then got knighted!

    Funeral directors are paid for the qualitative act of dignity towards the dead. Reduce it to a quantitative process then we would see our loved ones being thrown into landfill. Although again don't really provide a direct comparison to the NHS.

    Shareholders are concerned with 'The price of everything and the value of nothing'. That Oscar Wilde had a line for everything!

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