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    Peter #80 - unfortunately they are not IN Dover but on the outskirts and many who visit do not spend in the town. EH are not at all interested in the town and that is a complete disgrace.

    We have to face the simple facts Keith.

    Dover cannot compete with Canterbury or Ashford, both have 360 degree catchments and have a much, much wealthier demograph. If you wanted to set up a leisure business in this area if you had any sense you would not pick Dover. I wish it wasn't true but it is. Facing up to the facts instead of wishful thinking is not defeatism.

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