howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#1
we used to have at least one before - 3 questions here.
a) why is the folkestone road not included?
b) where will they find the man power to cover this?
c) if someone has their collar felt where will they be taken to?
http://www.dover-express.co.uk/Dispersal-zone-booze-bans-tackle-Dover-disorder/story-20001964-detail/story.htmlGuest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
- Posts: 3,370
#2
The problem is one of addiction.
Only when we start locking people away from there poison until they are no longer addicted will we start to help these people
A long time away from there addition, with time to be normal is the only way
You can go into the nick addicted to heroin or booze, the doctors will just medicate you with some other prescription poison ,then send you out the door still an addict.
Give them nothing and send them out free.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
#3
No idea Howard why Folkestone Rd wasn't included, there's enough cans thrown over garden walls to show there's a lot of it up here.
Keith B, yes it is one of addiction, drink and/or drugs, but not bering addicted to either, I cannot say how people are when they go "cold-turkey" - pretty bad I understand, so the medical profession have to slowly, slowly wean them of, but it doesn't seem to be very successful, does it ?
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#4
roger/keith
i have reg'd this from the opening statement, alcohol and/or drugs are a secondary issue
"The Designated Dispersal Area is in action until April 27, 2014 and allows officers to disperse groups causing intimidation, alarm or distress".
folkestone road from the station down to my road is the most obvious place to qualify for the above action, i haven't seen many people affected by alcohol or drugs there just intimidation.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,931
#5
There should be no such thing as a Designated Dispersal Area this problem should be tackled wherever it is.
I agree with Howard's doubts about there being enough enforcers. Nice to see you this morning Howard, a shame our chat was interrupted.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#6
Indeed jan as i said this morning we both shop at the same place and not crossed paths before.
i think it was when you worked at the age concern/age uk shop that we last spoke and it was on the subject of our late friend colin.
Judith Roberts- Registered: 15 May 2012
- Posts: 637
#7
There is already concern amongst our neighbours at Victoria Park about the drunks/ addicts gathering at the steps up to the castle. No doubt they have been moved along from the town centre. Not very welcoming for tourists.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,948
#8
The whole of Shepway is a dispersal area
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Guest 1033- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
- Posts: 509
#9
Judith, when my kids were at St. Mary's in Laureston Place, there was a dealer living next door to the entrance. They were using the steps that go down to Maison Dieu Road to 'shoot up', so I managed to get details to criminal intelligence about not only the dealer, but his supplier too. They acted on this very quickly, so I feel if you have problems like that, the police will deal with it.
Judith Roberts- Registered: 15 May 2012
- Posts: 637
#10
Thank you Barrie. I haven't seen anything as explicit as that. It is good to know that the police will act appropriately.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
- Posts: 3,370
#11
Howard
Can you be more specific on the type of intimidation and by who ?
If not drunks
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#12
just groups of mainly youths congregating after dark keith, not intimidated easily myself keith but many others are.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
- Posts: 3,370
#13
Maybe the lottery cash could improve youth club facilities, to remove youths from the street and into more useful activities.
Presuming the youths is of British extraction and reasonability.
If not then the second option would be EU withdraw and removal of the problem would be the alternative preference.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
#14
kieth,you are splitting hairs again.a youth club is a youth club open to all youth,no matter where they come from.
Terry Nunn
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,321
#15
When the Beaconsfield/London Road area was a dispersal zone a few years ago the problem just moved into the town. Methinks the reverse will now happen.
Terry
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,948
#16
why not a dover district dispersal zone
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