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    Ray, on this Forum Paul W wrote the very words which I put in quotation marks, and they were addressed to Vic, several weeks before the November 2010 consultation period on Whitfield building planning even started.

    My point is about Democracy: when I see that a population (local or national) is not asked: do you want this major decision to go through or not? .. but told: it will happen whether you like it or not!...
    then I will side for that which I believe in, namely Democracy.

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