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    I take it Ben Dover dont count as a Conservative anymore, but I'm sure he was great value as a Tory MEP.

    I dont think Hannon is on a gravy train, I think he's on the wrong train. Like I said before if someone stands tomorrow as a candidate for the County elections saying they're against what the County Council does and will fight to get the authority scrapped but will take the allowance we'd all think that person was of low esteem.

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