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    That really isn't true Keith.

    I never get personal on this forum and won't start now. Jan is quite right and fair in her analysis. It is also a fact that half of people who train to be teachers leave within 5 years. Why do you think this happens?

    The reason you seem to think that sticks are required is because you think that children do not do what they are told. Why is this?

    Respect is such a vital part of our society and is also vital within education. However when adults fail to show reasonable levels of respect, how do we expect children to act?

    There is a shortage of teachers, especially good ones. If we value education as a society, we should be trying to make it better, not just running it down.

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