Keith Sansum1
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#1
The minister for the disabled just been on BBC news about the review on the
£12 billion a year of taxpayers dosh being spent on the disabled living allowance.
her view was, that all those that are realy in need will continue to get the dosh, but the system is being abused and they want to weed these geezers out
not sure how when many will come from doctors just signing geezers off
long term and the minister said she will continue(her dept) will continue to look at doctors notes.
wonder if this will come to anything?
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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#2
I also heard this morning again on the BBC that concessionary travel for both the disabled and the over 60's was being cut completely on longer distance travel. Norman Baker erstwhile cuddly Libdem, but now in Government and not so cuddly, was on defending the move as they need to save money. National Express think its the wrong way to go about it...there were other variants possible said their spokesman.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#3
I can already see another U TURN forming
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Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#4
There are a number of observations firstly hardly a day goes by without some fraudster playing golf.lifting concrete etc who is claiming thousands from the disability benefits dept. They do real harm to truly disabled people who sadly all get tarred with the same brush.
Secondly who the hell is responsible for dishing out the 'blue badges' that the disabled use to park willy nillie? I am sure I am not alone when I say this system is also being abused.
Thirdly I think GP's and medical review boards have to take their task more seriously because ultimately its them not the government that dish out the disabled certificates.
Finally more needs to be done to help the genuinely disabled,workshops,re-training and medical support. What really amazes me is the number of limbless veterans who are both mentally and physically disabled that are only too keen to 'do' something rather than sit on their arses claiming the benefits they truly deserve.
Lets take it from the bogus and help the genuinely disabled more.
Marek
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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#6
Marek so true what you say there. Excellent stuff . The parking badges have been abused for a long time. The problem with so much of this kind of thing is that people know there is a problem but dont know the solution. So much of life is like this, we know the problems but dont know or have the solutions. Politicians often find that out, in opposition they know all the answers, in power the answers vanish on the wind.
I think in recent times more has been spent on detecting fraudtsers , I think I ran a press release about that previously. The powers that be have stepped up their game. The genuine need to benefit and all deserve it, but the sytem is riddled with fakers.
The story about the limbless on the frontpage is interesting, it shows what the disabled can achieve, I wonder if even those guys have difficulty in getting jobs.
#7
The problem is the knee jerks and the media presentation of all who claim disability benefits as "scroungers". And the "hidden" disabilities. The current system of assessment takes little or no notice of the disability that occurs when someone is genuinely clinically depressed, or struggling with bi-polar. Apparently, if you can walk a few paces you can work. Not so.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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The problem with that Bern is that there are so many new illnesses that are undetectable or near undetectable. Some medical opinion even say they dont exist. Its this gap in medical knowledge or expertise that Im afraid presents so many loopholes, and it can be a fakers charter.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#9
paulb
and thats part of the problem that takes us back to the other thread on the 8 bells and people drinking all day and night(which i couldnt afford) nor would i want to.
so if its just dole they get they couldnt afford it
so i presume its other allowances they get to enable them tio drink all day.
then you get into peoples priorities
wow getting bit heavy now lol
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#10
that embattled hostelry really gets a bashing on here despite their good value meals and drinks.
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#11
I wonder how much of this 'unearned' income washes through communities, towns and high streets up and down the land?
While a deal of may well find it's way across a bar here and there much too must go over the counters enabling many small and medium sized businesses to to tick over if not thrive.
Take the recent tale of hardship when a waster turned upon his own.
White goods and grey goods stolen perhaps to aid a get-away, the odd brass plaque also. Where do all these things go? Could it be that apart from some struggling bar-keeper there are other hard working businessmen driven/all too keen to see a profit in dealing with stolen goods.
Perhaps we should change from cash payments to a voucher scheme and prosecute the businesses and black-market-traffickers that live by exploiting the current system.
OR
Let us simply remove the thousands/hundreds of thousands of pounds of 'unearned' income from each community etc. at one fell swoop.
So what if in doing such a thing the newly (self made?) homeless squat in any or all of the newly disused shops and bars all along the high street...the out of town mega-store would still be there.
Where has our leisure time gone, the time to stand and stare?
"There is no thing more beautiful than a tree...that would stand here if it were not for that eye-sore of a council estate..."
So, to the many here who have such vast experience of Local Affairs. Let us partake of the mental exercise of doing away with all such payments....what then?
But of course we don't mean 'you', we mean this one there..it's he who is the real problem...
Why not instead stand and marvel at the indomitability of the human spirit?
Really, how long does one have to stand about to know than another does nothing with his day than drink?
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#12
seeing the same person every day 7 days a week every time i pass which is often
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#13
Going back to the thread title: why is there a minister for the disabled when there is no minister for the able-bodied?
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
#14
A good point well made. Same as minister for women.
Jan Higgins
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#15
Anybody about to shout that daft description 'positive discrimination'.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#16
so, everyone even the disabled themselves are saying the system is being abused
and needs a radical shake up,
so lets get to it
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