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  No Martin not directly aimed at you at all and no I could never ever see us going back to flogging or the stocks, I would be some sort of an idiot to think so. However I do believe we have gone far too far the other way.
  
  Community Pay Back does work in most cases and being at the Crabble Corn Mill I have seen firsthand a lot of what happens. Yes some come back time and again and you have to ask why, but many do not as they have learnt the error of their ways. However Community Pay Back is only for the over 18's as far as I am aware.
  
  The under 18's is where we lack in giving out some sort of discipline. They are happy to carry out anti social acts in the full knowledge very little will happen. As I said before the worst they get is a police caution very seldom does it go to court.
  
  If you catch vandals in the act then all you get is verbal abuse and they tell you to your face that nothing will happen to them and god forbid that you should lay your hand on them, even if it's to try and stop them running away. So yes we are too soft, the do gooders have got rid of the old ways of discipline but nothing has replaced them. There has to be a way of hitting them where it hurts by taking their free time from them in just the same way as Community Pay Back does. Certainly fining the parents does no good.

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