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  Ah good one there Terry re Harry Lime ...yes spoken atop the great wheel in Vienna in The Third Man..while below stretched out a war torn city. All sewers and rats and long shadows. marvellous
  
  What light from yonder window breaks! it falleth into the shadows to illuminate the ghostly ghastly third man, lighting up in some style.
  
  Howard I think it clould be a case of its all getting too much, tolerance is one thing but perhaps feeling overun is another. Thats why the politicians here are scared of referendums or referenda or whatever the correct term is, as it very often gives the result you dont want. Remember the now notorious first Irish referendum on the Lisbon Treaty?

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