Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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20 January 2011
08:4889633#1
Im in agreement with the Home Secretary and HMGovernment who have taken the decision to ban the crazed pastor Terry Jones. You might remember him...he was the one who threatened to burn the Koran last year causing widespread international consternation.
In fact the level of consternation he caused was way beyond this man's level of importance. Unfortunately this story went ballistic, circulating the globe at rapid speed, and the whole mess became very unpalatable indeed. The White House seemingly looked on powerless, being only able to offer tut tut style rhetoric.
Mr Jones's actions could have resulted in very serious fallout of a very dangerous nature...so in the interests of peace and some kind of wider religious acceptance and tranquility, this kind of gesture must be completely wrong...especially from someone claiming to be a pastor. I emphasise the word 'claiming'.
Alas he has learned nothing...he was on Radio FOUR less than an hour ago talking to John Humphries and saying...
"all other religions who do not follow the Christian path are of the devil"
which as any religious leader will tell you is complete balderdash.
Basically this is all entirely political and nothing to do with religion at all, although it is cloaked in a religious veil, a thin veil.
So in my view the Government were right in refusing to give this guy a platform. There is no room for extremists of any kind. The usual baloney about freedom of speech is being quoted but free speech comes with responsibility. Inciting hatred and causing widespread damage is not the proper use of free speech.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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20 January 2011
09:1189634#2
He is clearly an extremist fanatic but has a right to his view and to express it but what he has no right to do is to incite hatred or violence. It is a finely tuned argument.
Odd though - many an extremist and equally fanatical muslim has been let into this country or allowed to stay here, their so called 'human rights' being quoted as a reason.
20 January 2011
09:5689640#3
We do seem to let in any amount of hook-waving hate-spouting jihad-friendly Islamic Brothers but have kept out a teeny tiny US fanatic who actually didn't do anything at all - he didn't burn a book, unlike the Eastern countries who burned our flag and the US flag in response to his "freedom of speech" hate-filled words. PaulB is right - with freedom (of speech and anything else) comes responsibility, and he does talk crap, but there are many many others in our country doing the same and worse and who are still here and roaming around doing the same all over the place. Parity? I don't think so.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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20 January 2011
10:4889652#4
this bloke uses his congregations as slaves making furniture to earn "church funds", he had a set up in germany that the authorities took close interest in forcing him to return to the states.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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20 January 2011
11:2889653#5
It would be a good idea to give the so-called pastor the heave-ho, out of our Country, as we don't need his hatred speeches. He should not be allowed to use Britain as a base to spread his hatred against other beliefs in God.
20 January 2011
12:1989654#6
If we banned or exported every fanatic or extremist we would have hardly anyone left!!!!!
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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20 January 2011
12:5189656#7
That what he has been preaching does not come from British mentality, and he should not try to associate our Country and People with his nausea.
We don't need him!
Jan Higgins
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- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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20 January 2011
15:4289665#8
We either have to ban all extremists or let all these idiots in, we should not have double standards.
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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20 January 2011
17:4489677#9
Gawd forbid that we should let all the idiots in ( Im tempted to say we have enough here already but I wont.. as I might get deported myself!
) We also got rid of that Abda Hamsa (forgive the spelling) guy too didnt we... if Im remembering that right. These guys no matter what side they are on whip up racial tension and racial hatred. Young people can be so easily radicalised. At the moment we are going through painful 7/7 lawtrials which are examining the carnage and death brought about by unassuming individuals who were radicalised on our own doorstep.