Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,397
#1
I note that DDC officers and councillors are about to do their bit to try to prevent the City of London remaining a world leader in financial services and hub for innovative finance.
I honestly despair. Stupid, stupid idiots.
http://www.expressandstar.com/business/city-news/2017/01/23/objections-raised-to-countryside-masts-linking-london-and-frankfurt-traders/
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#2
Speaking as an unreconstructed Luddite I fully support the people of Sandwich in wanting to keep their landscape free of eyesores. I have been following the antics of the developers since last March when they started tapping local groups up with offers of free money if they played ball.
Not dissimilar to our Harbour Board in playing the same tricks to get their own way.
http://www.kentlive.news/council-told-to-reject-plans-to-build-a-tower-taller-than-the-shard-in-sandwich/story-30071531-detail/story.htmlCaptain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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#3
I expected no more of you Howard. Thank Christ Brunel did not have to put up with such idiotic views or the GWR line would probably have ended up terminating at West Drayton rather than Paddington due to objections from loads of people who are now dead. I really do think half the population would be better off living in an agrarian peasant society and leaving the rest of us to get on with things.
It was the same last night at the DHB meeting. Tim Waggott trying to explain about a multi-million pound investment in Dover and being berated by Dovorians as he couldn't say exactly what toilet provision there would be. Just how stupid are these people?
Meanwhile due to the Ravi Shankars whining about the Goodwin Sands being mostly made with the bodies of our glorious dead, DHB are having to do an expensive magnetometer survey for the MMO to prove they are not all still sitting in their Lancaster Bombers.
Frankly it will serve people right if they haven't got enough money left at the end of the project for a bloody pissoire.
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#4
Upon seeing this thread about the Luddites, I nearly smashed up my laptop in a fit of pique. I stopped short realising the irony of it all. I will just tut loudly instead.
Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#5
Oh dear Bob you would be crying yourself to sleep if the mast/s obstructed your eyeline. Luckily you have no say in the matter. The main point to remember is that our planning coves are responsible for the well being of the district not the counting houses of Cities like London and Frankfurt that are quite capable of looking after themselves.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,397
#6
Howard, I would actually enjoy living within sight of such a mast, especially if it encourages base jumpers! I enjoy large scale engineering (in a previous incarnation I studied Civil Engineering at Manchester Uni and worked on the building of Hinkley Point B). Next week I'm looking after a Youth Hostel in Yorkshire and have already planed a day out to see the Emley Moor mast!
The Richborough masts will allow UK Plc to retain its position as I set out in #1. If we wish to be successful as a country this is the sort of investment we need. We have the technology and we either grab it big time or look to a future of dressing up like peasants and showing rich foreigners round Merrie Old England - (though walking round Dover today it would seem that many are ahead of the game on the dressing up bit!)
plus (not that members can take this into account)
2.110 The applicant has officered a financial contribution to enhance the Saxon Shore Way through an updated guide book (£20,000), wayfinding signs (£5,000) and information boards (£5,000). Whilst these would be of some use to users of the footpath, any benefit is considered to be minor one.
2.111 The applicant considers that funding to Richborough Fort (£100,000) and funding and broadband provision to the Spitfire and Hurricane Museum (unspecified amount) would result in minor beneficial effect on tourism. However, notwithstanding that such contributions would not satisfy the CIL Regulations, the applicant does not balance this against the visual impacts of the Proposed Development in negatively effecting tourism in the area. When such visual impacts are considered, it is considered that the impact on tourism would be, at best, negligible adverse.
2.112 The applicant advises that they would set up an Employment, Community and Heritage Benefit Fund in association with the Proposed Development. The Fund, with a minimum annual guaranteed value of £100,000, would be distributed among local community organisations, halls and venues, education providers, and other centres, to include education and training projects. If rental income was generated by the mast from other equipment being located on it, this could be shared through an increase to the fund. The applicant proposes that this would be secured through a s.106 agreement, which would make provision for an administrative body to be set up.
What's not to like?
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#7
Bob's right of course, the people moaning will be the very same ones moaning that there are no well paid jobs around here.
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Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,709
#8
Struggle to see the problem myself
Most if no all those G1 & G2 buildings that people want to protect were considered to be eyesores at one time or another - many of our great buildings were objected to when they were planned and built as they didnt fit in at the time . Whilst we should preserve and cherish our history and protect our landscape from unnecessary development, both of these proposed towers are proposed for land that was/is industrial and has had tall/large buildings on it in the past.
No doubt the objectors are the same people who wanted to save the Richborough Cooling Towers...
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
#9
no worrys then,80% of the city are moving to paris and berlin in the next 18 months
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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#10
Brian Dixon wrote:no worrys then,80% of the city are moving to paris and berlin in the next 18 months
More fear-mongering rubbish from someone else on the wrong side of history in last year's referendum?
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Guest 1266- Registered: 8 May 2014
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#11
D Little wrote:Bob's right of course, the people moaning will be the very same ones moaning that there are no well paid jobs around here.
Because if its built the city is going to move its flash trading floors to East Kent?
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Jack of Hearts
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#12
I haven't seen any suggestion of jobs, let alone well paid ones being created locally.
Maybe a handful for the construction.
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Paul M- Registered: 1 Feb 2016
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#13
Brian Dixon wrote:no worrys then,80% of the city are moving to paris and berlin in the next 18 months
It's Paris, Frankfurt and perhaps 0.8% but hey one out of three isn't a bad effort!
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
#14
bob your a luddite for sure...lol
Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,261
#15
Thank goodness it's in Sandwich and not in my back yard
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Arte et Marte
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#16
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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#17
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