howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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courtesy of the telegraph, not often i am in tune with norman but some home truths here.
The Prime Minister is reported to have had some angry words with Jesse Norman, one of the leaders of the backbench Conservatives who had made it plain that they would not vote for his motion to timetable the Bill to abolish the House of Lords. He might have done better to reflect on why he is committed to give priority to a measure which is not only simply irrelevant to the problems facing the country, but is ill-conceived and dangerously destabilising to the constitution.
He is the victim, not of a Tory rebellion but of his own errors.
Had he not led a monumentally misconceived election campaign in 2010 against a hugely unpopular Labour government, he would have romped home with a substantial majority. Lacking that majority, he then made another misjudgment by entering a coalition with a party with which the Conservatives have profound policy differences.
It was those misjudgments, not the sound conservative instincts and reasoning of those who made it plain that they would oppose the timetable motion to stifle debate on the Bill, which landed Mr Cameron in a quarrel with his own party last night.
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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Jesse Norman wrote the book "The Big Society"
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Cameron was wrong to have a go at Jesse Norman, a rising star. It is most likely to damage Cameron.
I am a great admirer of Lord Tebbit.
Brian Dixon
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good grief bully boy tebbit now a lord,what ever next.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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tebbit always makes himself perfectly clear i have to admit.
no wonder dave has got it in for jesse norman, a rising star is one reason and additionally the "big society" idea looks tarnished 2 years on.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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How many more feet has Cameron got to shoot himself in?
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Keith Sansum1
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peter g at last we agree
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Not on everything Keef.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Keith Sansum1
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No we never will as you come from a dfferent viewpoint on many issues
not to mention you support the hiding charlie these days
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Guest 663- Registered: 20 Mar 2008
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Mr Cameron seems to have a problem holding on to his temper, when things do not go his way perhaps he should take his own advise and calm down, never good for the old blood pressure losing ones temper.

Keith Sansum1
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jan in this post you are correct
now to previous posts as you are one of a couple of labour posters could you please explain what your ed would do differently, not just in this situation but in govt?
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