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    At least, as can be seen in this case in Whitstable, there is a belief that Community can mean working and getting something in return, even if it is grown food which you then don't need to buy in the shops. This could also be in connection to the Elms Vale thread, how to offer a creative alternative to vandalism. How to involve people in Community participation.

    But the idea that everything has to be non-paid work, where you work for nothing and just pick up benefits, is a non-starter.

    The fact is, people in general resent working for nothing, I among them!

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