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    Hi Lorraine, well aware of the legends and also studied transcriptions of the medieval texts from which many of the legends spring. Legends, however nice they are, are not history and legends can be adapted to fit in pretty much anywhere. Sir Gawain has been interred in the crypt of the saxon Church that is now St Mary in Castro, but he has also been interred at several locations in the West Country and Wales, there are at least 4 different iron age hillforts or stone walled castle ruins that were definitely the 'real' Camelot, the 'real' sword in the stone can be found in locations as diverse as Spain, Brittany and several locations in the UK as well as being seen as a much more ancient metaphor for the casting of an iron/bronze sword in a stone mold, Bors, Lancelot and several other names associated with the arthurian set of legends come from different parts of the England, Wales or Northern France, depending on local legend makers' preferences and objectives. A lot of fun can be had with legends and a lot of tourist dollars extracted from giving the tourists a local adaption of a well known legend with something suitably old to go and see or an adventure through some dark subterranean tunnel or cave to get a taste of the myth.

    But Dover has THE most amazing real history and heritage which is not so well or so widely known and the town, over many decades, has failed to capitalise on its place at the heart of our nation's soul.

    Perhaps instead of a rant at members of this forum who want to preserve and protect the built heritage on the heights just as much as you yourself do and instead of harking back to previous pyrric victories which have failed to fulfill their early promises, it would be more productive to gain friends and influence people by using your undoubted historical knowledge and skill at argumentation to put forward a reasoned, fundable and constructive plan for the future of the heights on this forum that the undecided can get behind and the so-called pro developers (of whom I have not seen but one on this forum) can be persuaded to subscribe to.

    Just occasionally, in fact more often than not, humour is just humour and a gentle good humoured tease is just a bit of fun, nothing more, nothing less.

    Hi Howard, many who were born and bred here don't know anything of the legends either and just as many are barely aware of the extremely rich real history that exists all around them, so don't feel left out

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