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    "It doesn't matter what we say Paul, or what hard evidence we provide; you will never accept it - that is yours and the Western Heights Preservation Society's loss."

    No loss to anyone Lorraine, merely pointing out FACTS and the fact is there is a lot of information in the CGI plans about play areas when you said CGI didn't take them into consideration. I am all for looking at the FACTS and making an informed balanced decision.

    As I have said the plans are severely lacking in the area of guarantees for the protection of the heritage, something that CGI can't do until EH given any guidance but they are not playing game, so is a visious circle. Until these are in place it is difficult to fully support or oppose the plans, only comment in principle....

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