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    Alexander
    you cant have it both ways

    UKIP must have break throughs if it is to be taken seriously
    by this i dont mean coming a close 3rd place
    I mean winning seats

    now It was raised that the county elections are the first ones to be held. so i put forward my view on what will happen,
    You appear to have written off UKIP before a vote is even counted in the county elections which is interesting in itself.

    Thats fine, but thats where it all starts from, then of course we have the general election unless UKIP wins a seat it will never be taken seriously

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