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    Howard - your post #11 is just words - you cannot hide away the economic problems and ignore them, that will not save a single job. Deficit reduction is about people, it is about getting the economy working and that means it is about more jobs but we have a lot of pain to go through to get there. It is a terrible position to be in and the blame can be laid at the last government who put us here. You cannot wish the problem of the deficit away.

    What I was referring to are jobs and many are being taken by foreigners - a simple fact. There are jobs around. Brian - that is nonsense. Alexander I gave you an example of a real case and the man doing the recruiting was the source.

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