Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,463
Nick Clegg is now under pressure from his own party members who are disgruntled about his leaderxhip or lack of it and the direction (downwards) he is taking his party.Norman Lamb the Norfolk MP has threatened to quit the party over the controversial NHS reforms. He believes the pace of change is too quick, even for those at the back of the waiting list. He has now become a runner to take over the leadership.
Paddy Power immediately cut Lamb's odds on succeeding Clegg as leader of the Lib Dems from 33-1 to 12-1. Tuition fees are thought to be another factor influencing Lamb's revolt. He does not think he should be paying any. Next Lib Dem leader (Paddy Power) 3-1 Chris Huhne, Tim Farron 8-1 David Laws, Ed Davey 10-1 Charles Kennedy 12-1 Norman Lamb, John Leech, Simon Hughes, Michael Moore, Sarah Teather
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
lambs to slaughter springs to mind.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
- Posts: 7,819
Am surprised that Simon Hughes's odds are running at 12/1. I think he is their best option as he has a very solid televison presence and is quite engaging. He displays quite an amount of charisma toooo...for a Libdem I mean.
As we have said on other threads, the Libdems will try all they can to stay in government though, so no bets on an early election.
This weird AV Vote is bringing all sorts of maggots out from under the political rock witn the most amazing splits and the most amazing alliances. Heavens, Lord Reid and David Cameron in one camp...Ed Miliband and Uncle Vince in the other, with the most amazingly weird debates going on. Newsnight last night saw a highly animated Chris Huhne attacking a nice Tory...I dunno..bizarre notion this whole AV vote thing.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,247
The LibDems are a hopeless bunch.
They always relied on not having to take the difficult and controversial decisions needed in government so they could appear all nice, warm and cuddly, being all things to all men.
Since the last election they had to make a choice and are now facing the facts of being in office and some of them want to go back and hide into that nice warm place from whence they came. They cannot take the heat and are showing how unfit they are for office and how worthless a vote for them is. There are some honourable exceptions to this among them of course, Clegg, Alexander and Laws in particular.
I do feel some sympathy for Clegg, who has provoked a few robust conversations in our house! The things he and Cameron have expressed and the way they have expressed them have often been characterised as soft and floppy, too touchy feely and mutually back-slapping, but actually it is a grown up way to govern: accepting differences and talking through them, owning mistakes and history, and making intelligent, sometimes compromise, decisions. Sadly the majority of Sun- Express- and Mail-reading voters prefer the very PR and spin they pretend to abhor and like it when "leaders" make "strong" statements and collude with prejudice, and are scared by any hint of human failings or conversation.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
surprised that david laws is such a long shot, the blues would love him to be the leader.
maybe i have answered my own question?
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
- Posts: 7,819
A true blue in the making as indicated by BarryW's showing of affection for him above (and BarryW doesnt give this show of affection to any old libdem nosireee) is the aforementioned Danny Alexander. I would take bets that he will jump ship in the fullness of time and become a Conservative proper. He looks, talks, sounds, like a Tory already. He has reached the dizzy political heights quite young...so will he want to banish himself back down that slippery golden libdem ladder to obscurity while still a young man, and after having sampled the tasty delights of power??
I doubt it. Would you... if you were a young man like him looking for a soaring political career.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
some time ago i stated on this very forum that this cobbled together would not go the full term, and no one agreed with me.
just as i predicted the lib dems would pull the govt down.
on the issue of lib dem leadership, my monies on simon hughes, hes a nice cuddly geezer comes across to the general public as a caring geezer, not frightened to challenge his own leadership, and fire the warning shots.
yep and like paulw there will be those young lib dem mp's who will have tasted govt and not want to give it up after the next general election thus some will be totaly unprincipled and jump ship, in the reason of political careers rather than true beliefs.
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,247
I dont know how to break this to you Keith but the Coalition has not been 'pulled down', it is still in place and governing.
We have local elections and they are bound to result in some 'local difficulties' but they do not necessarily mean the end of the coalition. I suspect that predictions of the coalitions death are very premature whatever wishful thinking you might have.
Make it kind, BarryW. Let Keith down gently........
