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    Some good ideas there Marek - just to say, I don't class every one who receives benefits as a scrounger; I know there are many vulnerable/unfortunate/other people, who need financial assistance and they should continue to receive it, but there are, as has been admitted, many many people who treat benefits as a way of life, rather than a safety net.

    I know that times have changed and I appreciate it must sound like an old fart having a go, but years ago, people didn't have children unles they knew they could afford them - ie, they took responsibility for their own parenthood, not rely on the state to pay for them.

    Many young girls, as Chris has said, have kids just to get on the system of housing and benefits.





    Roger

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