howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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28 February 2010
21:3541636#1
in the news this week was the tale of the above killing the trainer.
it has now been decided that the creature will not be put down, why this was ever considered is a mystery to me.
the chap was minding his own business swiming around the oceans, sorting out plankton, then gets incarcerated in the equivalent of a swimming pool.
to add insult to injury they then want to train him in order to entertain the masses.
surely he is entitled to be miffed?
apparently this was not his first offence, should we be still keeping these great mammals?
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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28 February 2010
21:4541639#2
Howard.No we should not, a killer Whale comes in at about 5tons you should not keep them in a pool even a big one they need to be in the open sea To late now to let this one go but they should stop it .
28 February 2010
21:4741640#3
Hear hear. It'slike putting one of us into a cardboard box and wondering why we weep.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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#4
These great animals or mammals should be out roaming the great oceans and not held in un-natural environments. Of course people love to see them, thats the problem. I myself have visited the fab Nausicaa in Boulogne on a number of occasions so I am in fact one of the hordes that perpetrate the problem. As long as people go see them the demand will be there. Its been like this for years with everything from monkeys to parrots to sharks being in demand to perform outside their natural habitat.
It must be noted though that Zoological Societies do work hard in some areas to preserve species in decline...so some good work is being done.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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#5
Up close and as personal as you wanna be with a shark...
fortunately several layers of superthick glass between him and us, picture taken at Nausicaa, but at the end of the day the poor thing is just swimming round and round in a 'goldfish bowl'. But...see the post above, I am just perpetuating his plight.
Guest 657- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#6
I agree, I think it's wrong to keep creatures like that to entertain people, it's not that far removed from dancing bears which is now thankfully banned.
Guest 657- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#7
Forgot to add - a few years ago I was in Australia and visited a zoo where the animals roamed large areas and the public were in caged or plexiglass covered walkways - much better!!
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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#8
Believe it or not, I was half way through doing a post yesterday about this incident. The chief executive was quoted on yahoo as deciding the animal wouldn`t be put down. Was there ever a chance it was? I wouldn`t put anything past this dispicable species of ours. I was also going to mention the massive leaking aquarium in Dubai, in which the public can walk under/through and view the sea life. Can`t leave it at that though the gutter media, they had to mention the aquarium was full of sharks, you know, those animals portrayed in jaws as the villains of the planet, (excluding your precious human race of course). As you can see, I get very angry over the treatment of animals and the planet in general by us lot, which is why I came off. Well done Howard, and the good posts following.
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#9
looks like we are of one mind on this.
i have no problem with wildlife parks as such, a lot of times they do a lot of conservation work and can ensure the survival of species, sometimes introducing them into the wild.
there are plenty of trips from coastal areas to see the whales anyway, plus cruise ship passengers get a chance to see them in their natural habitat.
Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
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#10
Caged or imprisoned animals can be justified if the animals involved are endangered; keeping them as pets or playthings is wrong. We saw a bear in St Petersburg last year being walked like a dog, on a lead with a ring through its nose; although it was in good condition and obviously a much loved animal, I found it quite distressing to see. Wild animals belong in the wild.
True friends stab you in the front.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#11
Right again Andy .
#12
Whist having every sympathy for the late trainer one wonders which bit of 'Killer Whale' she did not understand.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#13
following on from andy's post, there are still EU member states that have people parading bears for entertainment.
Guest 641- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#14
Hopefully the Orca will be set free, but more than likely the powers that be will say that it would be too dangerous for its well-being as it has become institutionalized.
#15
My daughter has swum with sharks and killer whales in their natural habitat and, obeying the rules for being in their territory, she found them a delight to be with. It should also be noted that dolphins can also be quite aggresive to discourteous intruders.
I am in full agreement with all that has been said about returning wild creatures to their natural habitat except for those where human intervention is necessary to prevent extinction of a species.
And the thought of Howard dancing bare is, well, something likely to put me off my dinner for some time! No offence Howard, I hear you are a good dancer!
#16
But bare, Sid, bare.................be still and ponder........
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#17
i must admit it would not be pretty sight.
i cannot even dance with my clothes on.
#18
Bern,
