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    Jan
    (and others) you would do well to justwatch some of the meetings you would then see.

    Now back to the issue, the planning dept ha held back dover for some time, and chooses(officers choose_)when to support an application.
    Roger has indicated on here views on the application so maybe he should be challenged?

    Now, on the wider issue of officer control(Peter honestly we may agree a bit here)
    It Is fully understandable that officers will fill the vacuum left by absent cllrs, and do all they can to run the council,
    Cllrs make small dents now and again, but because they are not often at the council offices the officers know they can do as they wish(and do)

    There does appear to be conflict between peter's view and that of Roger on officer control

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