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  I think you will find that figure well, well out of date and is not supported by mortality rates Marek.
  
  Howard - How else do you break the cycle of cildren born to families where generations have been out of work and for whom benefits are a natural and normal way of life. I suspect that breaking that cycle including the use of fostering will more than pay for itself long term. The alternative is to carry on as we are and allow this band of malingerers keep growing, that is not an option. Time to get tough, very tough.

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