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  As an old age pensioner (and a miserable one at that!) I always need to spend my money wisely and carefully. I have been considering shelling out the 55 quid necessary to try out the Javelin trains on HS1.
  
  I must admit that ever since I heard about their introduction I was very sceptical about them. I remember saying on the old forum that they would only be introduced to the detriment of the Charing Cross and Victoria services. I was at least proved right in that respect. Both the traditional routes will be virtually "all stations" and will take far longer than now.
  
  It's horses for courses of course but I would fall into the category of not wanting to get to St Pancras in double quick time only to spend another half hour being jostled on a sweaty tube train to get into central London.
  
  I am old enough to remember the luxurious seating on the old SUB's and EPB's and was not really enamoured when the CEP's were refurbished with "harder" seating. All of this pales into insignificance when you look at the budget airline single class type seating on the Javelins.
  
  Another nail in the coffin to put me off, and something that seems to have been kept quiet about, is the fact that these 140mph trains won't actually travel that fast. Unless they have to make up time they will be restricted to 125mph. HST's were doing that 40 years ago!
  
  So, to sum up. I think I'll give it a miss and invest in another tank of petrol.
  
  BTW ASDA are still selling it at 102.9!
  
  Terry

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