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    Now wait a minute Howard-I regard myself as working class-ok I had the privilege of a 1960's education and I worked hard at school and I've worked hard since. I've had my ups and downs. It's not only middle class people who know how to fill out a form you know. You're not implying that all working class people are dim are you? There are some very bright people who lived on no hope estates-yet have organised themselves and other like minded residents and pulled the direction of their community into a renewed positive one.

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