Guest 752- Registered: 21 May 2012
- Posts: 25
#1
I probably should have known better thinking our MP's "had got it" but after the latest revelations about the rental scam (albeit legal but it stinks) I just wonder if our own Charlie Elphick is operating above board or is involved. I'm a Charlie fan so would be disappointed to learn if he is. Anyone know
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,247
#2
He is. I believe that you can look at the expenses claims on-line. If I remember correctly he does not claim for accommodation.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
- Posts: 6,950
#3
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
#4
he was last friday when i spoke to him.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#5
no peter the penny has not dropped with many of them, slippery is too kind a word to describe their antics. they will be quick enough to bash "dole" scroungers though.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2235661/MPs-demand-MORE-expenses-afford-live-Westminster--dont-want-night-bus.htmlGuest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
- Posts: 6,950
#6
Are They Still At It? Last night's Despatches programme...
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatches/4od#3446305Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
- Posts: 7,819
#7
Yes saw last nights Despatches programme and it made for very miserable viewing..in the sense that some of the so called elite in the land are still up to financial skullduggery. It's depressing though isnt it, as we thought all this was behind us.
The programme is highly recommended, anyone and everyone should see it...so many of these guys claiming this and that in true shenanigan style.
It goes like this...
Own a house in or around Westminster already??
Naffed off now because you now cant claim expenses??
easy solution...no charge..
rent one down the road, claim for the rent and you get it..loads of expenses
then
rent your own one out from up the road and make a double whammy financial killing. Easy peasy!
I bet half the barrow boys in London wouldnt have thought of that one.
Prime Minister Cameron was shown promising that people like Francis Maude ( he named Maude ) would not be involved in shady shenanigans in future, but lo and behold
dear ol Francis was the first one mentioned. Lots of financial jiggery pokery but coming out on top, wallet full, at the voters expense. Cameron seems to come across more and more as a reasonably decent stick trying to do the right thing but gawd dont these guys let him down. Same for Labour though too..shady and disappointing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#8
so many live in a cocoon and unaware of what we think of them, just seeing themselves as victims of the "politics of envy".
some must spend more time studying the small print of the rules on how to claim expenses than on parliamentary business, much the same as a a serial scrounger who will know to the penny how much he/she can claim.
the place is rotten to the core and shows no signs of improvement - serious decisions have to be made. ids has plans for one universal benefit, how about the same for m.p's?
the poor mites will not travel on late night buses like other late finishing londoners claiming security as an issue - utter rubbish, most people would only recognise their own m.p and major political figures, not back benchers from afar.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,931
#9
I think it is time that a building within walking distance of Westminster was converted to bedsits for the MPs, that way they can stay overnight should they choose at a reasonable cost to the tax payer. If they don't like it let them pay for their own accommodation, sadly I doubt it will ever happen.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
- Posts: 8,664
#10
Charlie is squeaky clean. No doubt in my mind whatsoever.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,948
#11
i wont comment on peters view in case he makes accusations lol
on the general point of MP's they have all lost there way and best now to have a serious sort out
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#12
i have no problems with charlie on that score, the problem is mixing on a daily basis with dodgy types can drag anyone down.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
#13
who are you calling dodgy howard.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#14
only a few(hundred) of them brian just seems a game to them. when the expenses scandal broke there was little contrition, just a sense of grievance that we were picking on them.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
#15
ahhhh them rouges.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,948
#16
And they still do it howard, and some of its legal!!!
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#17
courtesy of the telegraph-another one who should know better.
Stephen Dorrell, the former health secretary who now chairs the House of Commons health committee, made a £70,000 profit from the controversial deal which has not previously been publicly declared.
Last night, Mr Dorrell admitted he had arranged for his friends Linton and Denise Connell to buy the flat near the Commons so
that he could rent it back from them after a crackdown in the wake of the 2009 MPs' expenses scandal.
After being approached by The Daily Telegraph about the arrangement last night, Mr Dorrell said he would be declaring it to fellow MPs on the health committee, which started the inquiry into social care in June this year.
Mr Dorrell, a health secretary in John Major's government between 1995 and 1997, is an influential voice in elderly care, one of the Government's most controversial policy areas.
Labour last night questioned Mr Dorrell's arrangement. One MP, John Mann, said he should consider his position as committee chairman, adding: "[His committee] will want to know what is going on. This raises questions about his independence. He needs to demonstrate that he has no links, personal or professional, to these landlords."
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
- Posts: 6,950
#18
There must surely be mile upon mile of Cold War bunkers in and around Westminster offering the ultimate in security and convenience...all with, perhaps, a single lockable door at one end.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
#19
and low rents as well.