Keith Sansum1
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#1
With the announcement that Irish Ferries are to run a service out of Dover the RMT union is starting a campaign to highlight the poor wages.
Poor conditions
Etc
They have asked to meet the Dover MP who has already stated her support for Irish Ferries , and the knock on affect that could happen is one that should concern any sea farer
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#2
Again you do not know what you are talking about I find it hard to believe that there are any bad conditions on any of the ships out of Dover I do not know about pay but again they must be the same as other crews.Fact and proof is needed on this one not just talk.
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#3
(Not my real name.)
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#4
Unlike yourself
Post 2 I don't hide the facts I'm an active trade unionist, and yes the conditions have been proved to be worse with this company thus why not just me, the national Union is campaigning on it.
Of course unions are working conditions are not something that bothers you I understand that when my n/hours told me working in unsafe conditions they all refused to go into an unsafe area
Everyone wouldn't go but one didn't care .
So I'm not surprised at the lack of interest in the wages and conditions of others
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#5
I am Alife time unionist and do not have to pay anymore because of my age still have my book and card mate uptodate I said I do not know of their wages and have not been on any ships from the time I packed up work and the conditions were good then so find it hard they are not today .TELL me what bad conditions on ship are you talking about?it is all very clean and thats done by the crews themselfs if it is the hours they work ,must say I do not know but there are guide lines which a ship any ship must follow for safety and there is a code out for that. So I do not know what you mean.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#6
RMT can inform you of all
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#7
Being a union card carrying member means little although it's good to be one.
Iv spent as much time in my working life challenging even union leaders who taken by positions of power
That's our difference probably
But if workforce wouldn't work in an area .solidarity alone would stop me and stand by them
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#8
I love all this rubbish about jobs that are not safe and a person say,s I am not doing it, and this has happen to me more then once working about 200 to 300 ft up and up comes a crane comes up with a big metal beam on chains which a raped around it so two men one each side put the bolts in and then it comes to taking the chains off the crane but they were small chains so you can not reach out to take them off,what would you do,remencering that you might have a house to pay for or a wife having a baby so you need the cash so you tell the foreman I am not getting out there I might fall ,he tell you to do it or get off site even that the law is on your side you lose your job and cannot pay out the money for your needs, well you might do what I and others done you would beam walk out there and take the chains off .and if you reported what happen a phone call would go out and you would not work on a site again. Other times are and again this happen to me we was going to put steel up in the lift shaft but only way was by ladder because you cannot fit scaffording up along came a old safey officer .see what you are trying to do but you must not use ladders but I can see it is the only way,so I am going for a cup of tea will be about 30 mins so it is up to you but I told you not to do it. So I put it on my shoulder and went up the ladder with it but done my back by doing it ,but that does not matter the job got done,now if that had been a young officer who might have said no you can not do it, what you do then is wait till he goes home then come back at night and carry on.The work must be done by you or somone will come along and do it and you lose the job.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#9
There you go point proved
With the same mentality
I know people who worked in UNSAFE conditions
And fell from roofs and became crippled
So that's better?
I think not
My n/,Bour was correct then
I would stick by workforce certainly if puts me in danger of risk of life
Mortgage or no mortgage I wouldn't do it
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#10
Easy said
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#11
Bern through it
And exactly what I would do
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Ross Miller
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#12
this is all very pinteresque
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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#13
Can you write a Doveresque script Ross? Local characters included.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#14
What do you want to be Paul
Or leave it to ross
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