Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#1
Sky News reports:
"Ireland is to hold a referendum on whether to accept the European fiscal treaty which tightens controls on member states' budgetary decisions."
The move comes after Britain and the Czeck Republic refused to support the project.
The question is: how many times will Ireland be required to hold the referendum until a "yes" vote comes out of it?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#2
much as i empathise with the sentiment alex, this is a new thing not one that has been put to the electorate before.
you can be assured that there will be a "no" vote.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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#3
the result should be intressting,
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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#4
Whether or not there is a yes or no vote it will make no difference as Greece will default and exit the euro. It's what everyone really wants - most of all the Germans.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#5
i suspect you may be right philip, a country that is the cradle of civilisation has been humiliated on the world stage and basically now being ruled by foriegners.
as an add on ireland has obeyed the directives and is showing all the right signs that a recovery is in progress.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#6
They have rigged the treaty anyway so all countries don't have to ratify it. Typical EU contempt for people.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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#7
It is in the Irish Constitution, which is in relative terms a modern document, to hold a referendum on almost everything. The people decide which way to go, which way to jump on all decisions. I think the inspiration must have come from the French Revolution. However as we have seen in recent years the various referenda have not fessed up the final say, as in previous times...the hand of big brother now holds sway in the shape of the European Union.
The EU has been good for Ireland generally, but as we have seen 'twas all boom and then bust. Ireland borrowed like mad when borrowing was cheap, as did everywhere else, but when the financial influenza spread across the world from the west they were caught out and couldnt service the debt.
However I think the economy was essentially sound underneath, but the debt was crippling. Banks got in allsorts of a mess, one particular bank that I have a lowly account in over there had to hive off half of their portfolio, including yours truly's few bob, as part of the agreement for government bail out. The re-organisation was widespread and stringent.
But now as we seen they have followed the guidelines since the EU bailout and are recovering.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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#8
barryw,have you any proof of treaty rigging.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#9
Yes Brian - the proof is in the Treaty itself. Only 12 of the 17 Eurozone members need to ratify it for it to come into force. Previous treaties have required all signatories to ratify them. This is another example of how the EU twists, bends and breaks its own rules.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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#10
barryw,that constituts a majorty,no proof of rigging.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#11
LOL Brian - previous treaties have required ALL countries to ratify, the rigging is because they have changed this one to meet their purpose and is just yet another two fingered salute to the people of Europe.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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#12
lol barry sounds like this one has got up your nose,and by the way they taken a hint from this goverment and changed the goal posts.
