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  Alex - we have debated defence before on other threads and it would be better to do so on a seperate thread.
  
  I disagree that we can leave it all to our allies.
  
  We do not always have the same strategic interests as them and we cannot always call on them either. It would also be wrong of us to let them carry our burden or to hide behind them as some countries do, hiding behind the USA.
  
  Take the Falklands for instance. Do you really think that we could have relied on our allies to make up any deficiencies in our own defence posture? Certainly not - if so the Americans might have sent in a US Navy Carrier group to support our air defense or the French would have done more to help defend against the Exocets.
  
  In the first Gulf War the Belgians refused to sell us ammunition....
  
  In the real world sometimes we just have to defend our own interests and we need to ensure that we are able to do so.
  
  As for 'inhumane principals' - I totally disagree with what you seem to think are 'inhumane principals'. I consider it inhumane to condemn people to poverty by making state benefits so high that it is not worth them getting a job. The only way out of poverty is through work. I consider it inhumane as well to hamstring our economy with high levels of public spending, limiting our ability to generate wealth the result of which is more low pay and more poverty.

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