Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
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Lincolnshire Born and Bred
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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#2
Taken in isolation, I am sure there will be ways to show a 'real' benefit from the ban. If no children were born for five years the child-mortality rate would plummet too.
If there were separate rooms in pubs etc. where smoking could continue the benefits would be largely the same and may indeed broaden in scope. Non-smokers and the public in general would not have to endure the current pavement 'camp-fire' scenes, for instance.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Tom, I have 5 friend dead in the last 2 years all under 60.
They have 2 things in common; all smokers all have me as a friend
Draw your own conclusions.
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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#4
In one year I lost 9 friends, all well before their time and none of them had anything to do with smoking.
If you collect statistics on the benefits of the ban you will show positives, but if you compile statistics on the number of small pubs etc. that have closed because of the changes you would get a very different picture.
Lots of things are dangerous, or potentially dangerous (motorbikes, skiing, nuclear power stations), however the matter of importance should be choice. Keep smoking away from food areas and children certainly but allow the businesses, and through them their customers, the choice.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#5
Pubs are closing because of over taxation on drinks, and for country pubs
Drink driving.
I don't think outside smoking is the issue, pretty hard to separate smoking rooms as smoke travel and staffs still have to service the rooms.
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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#6
I remember when they used to tell us that eating more than two eggs per week was dangerous.
We all die one day. How on earth do people want to die? I suppose in Heaven smokers will still be vilified as dying from a non-pure and natural way to end their life. In heaven more politically correct ways of dying will be as righteous and wholesome.
DT1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 15 Apr 2008
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#7
That's quite a sweeping view on heaven Phillip.
I'm not quite sure how cigarettes and wind farms transpose? Unless of course your neighbour's wind farm is creating energy and you falsely tell the Daily Mail it isn't.
DT1- Location: Dover
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#8
As for eggs, you are fine as long as you avoid them on the sabbath day.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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#9
yes we all remember ms curry and her friends sam & ella.
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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#10
Problems with planning on Westmount, then it catches fire. Struggling to complete a conversion in an old church, then it catches fire. Delays in planning and negotiating the removal of radio masts in Burlington House, then it catches fire.
How did Brooke House survive to be demolished?
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
DT1- Location: Dover
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#11
No smoking area?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#12
can't blame this on a recently deceased entrepreneur.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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#13
no but his ghost came back and set light to it.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#14
Phillip I think the laws more about smokers killing other people,
Unfortunately as they breathe out.