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    I don't watch this stuff - I saw the bit where Opik let Havers fall in some water as the kids were watching it! But I am certain Havers opinion of him is accurate - I have always found him particularly and irritatingly dense whenever he was on TV as a politician, lacking any of the necessary charm or articulacy needed to impress a voting public, so I am with Havers: what on earth made people vote for such a eejit??!!

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