Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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To 'brew' or not two 'brew', that is the question...
From the News page...
"Reduce the Strength project aims to tackle drink-related anti-social behaviour"
"Shops in Dover Town Centre are being asked to ..."
http://www.dover.uk.com/news/2013/reduce-the-strength-project-aims-to-tackle-drink-related-anti-social-behaviour
It has worked well in Ipswich, they say. Without saying quite what 'it' actually is. You may note from the article, linked to below, that in Ipswich major retailers volunteered to emend their licence and to stop selling high-strength lagers and ciders. The odd thing in Dover is that retailers are to be asked to stop selling these products to "street drinkers":I foresee a small problem with this.
The Ipswich tale...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-19700304
Something by way of overview to provide general background...
http://www.ias.org.uk/resources/papers/occasional/uk-affordability-trends.pdfIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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State nannying at its worst. If they want Special Brew, nothing else will do and the weak lagers and ciders taste like gnats' pee anyway.
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Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Peter, can you give an example of state nannying at its best?

Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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A good positive move and an attempt to do something about the street drinkers that are causing so many problems in and for the Town. Give it a chance before ridiculing it.
Audere est facere.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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couple of things here.
firstly, the law clearly states that anyone under the influence should not be served, street drinker or not.
secondly, how would a shop owner/worker know where the drink will be consumed?
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Don't try and look too deep Howard, it is the known street drinkers that this is aimed at or that is how I read it, you I am sure know exactly who they are as do the shopkeepers. You will still be able to get your 11.9% from the Polish shop

Audere est facere.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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thanks for the tip off martin, wasn't aware of that. getting back to the new ruling it 's only a couple of shops that flout the present law on who they sell to - a crackdown on those would be more effective in my view.
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Perhaps all part of the same initiative Howard?
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Keith Sansum1
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It has to help, doesn't it??
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Jan Higgins
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I certainly hope so.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Well there is certainly one good thing about all this...so far. Those who have been refused their 'fuel' are free to go to the shop down the street, if or when that changes...all problems will magically disappear?
The good Burgars of Ipswich saw the light, with the help and compliance of local shops, in outlawing the sale of these high-octane refreshments.
It seems that it is not the case that the peace-loving imbibers of these products are taking up the slack in sales.
If the Police and Council are not ready to do something why is it to be left to small family-run businesses to police drunkenness?
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.