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    Agreed. The delays will have been strategically planned and "consultations" will have been the smokescreen. I am not sure why Vic thinks people are over-reacting given that he also thinks we have delayed the building with our apathy. And, Vic, I welcome your views and you are obviously free to express them, so please continue to do so but please stop being defensive and stop adding bits about being shouted down etc. We aee free to disagree with you as you are free to disagree with us. One thing I do find difficult is your inconsistency though. One minute trying to rally the troops to get the thing built, the next - probably because of the people proposing it - dissing ideas other than the meetings you attend. It really does have to be a multi-faceted approach.

    PS - I would be happy to count too!!!!

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