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  i think that helen's post got lost in all that.
  
  i didn't know that holland had done so well over the recent crises, what i do know that it was always one of the most over densely populated countries in the world and that large scale immigration has caused even more problems to them than it has to us.
  
  this is evidenced by a rise in right wing support from a population that are renowned for their liberalism and tolerance.

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