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    i see no mention of drunken ticketless liverpool fans in my post.

    on the day it happened bbc 1 grandstand cameras were focused on one of the entrances where it was clear that serious problems were happening because people were entering the ground close to kick off time pushing their way in whilst spectators
    already in were pushing back indignantly.

    i witnessed exactly the same at 2 villa park cup semi finals prior to the hillsborough disaster.

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