Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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4 November 2008
08:578616#1
Without turning this into any kind of Party political issue the result of some academic research appeared in the Guardian.
"On a party-by-party basis, the average (childhood) IQ scores for 2001 voters were:
Green - 108.3
Liberal Democrat - 108.2
Conservative - 103.7
Labour - 103
Plaid Cymru - 102.5
Scottish National - 102.2
UK Independence - 101.1
British National - 98.4
Did not vote/None of the above - 99.7"
As some of the most stupid people I have ever met are academic with Uni degrees I have difficulty in relating IQ to real world intelligence so I am not too sure what the real validity of this is. Perhaps IQ tests simply suit a particular type of mind set.
What do you think....
Guest 650- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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4 November 2008
09:468619#2
That on the basis of that bit of research, I should not be voting at all ....
Brian Dixon
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4 November 2008
11:558627#3
dont knock yourself maggie im sure you would do the right thing.
4 November 2008
16:188628#4
To paraphrase the original maxim of Groucho Marx (or was it Oscar Wilde? Same difference): I wouldn't want to join any party that would accept me as a member.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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4 November 2008
16:588630#5
Interesting readout above on the IQ situation, although I would suspect that social standing or mobility is the real reason behind people ending up in various situations and in various political parties. If you take the BNP above it seems to suggest low brow capapbility is the real reason people are there. People congregate at their own social level and this is very much a lower working class movement. Its a pretty thicko but simple philosophy though, at BNP level, and is made up of...
hating all foreigners
hating everyone of a certain skin tone
hating everyone and everything about Brussels
always wearing a Union Jack about the person
always wearing very large boots with lots of laces
so perhaps not very bright but easy to follow. No thinking required.
On the other hand at top of the tree, or almost, you have the highbrow Liberals and arch Guardian readers. All members of the chattering classes. All woollly jumpers with added green outlook. They wear red socks with their green corduroys and are forward thinking. They tune into Andrew Marr on sundays, while peering through the pages of The Observer, and tut tut about Gordon Brown. They think that nice red haired Kennedy chap is a bit of a secret sozzler but jolly jolly decent. They sometimes mix with the Greens at social functions and are all fans of that shadow shadow chancellor chap who's name escapes me for the moment. They all cheered when he called Mr Brown "Mr Bean"...oooh I say..what an insult!
So there we are, a cross section of todays society...and you wouldnt want to be anywhere else? right?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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4 November 2008
20:238639#6
paul
the head of the BNP is a posh bloke that graduated from cambridge university.
they still have people as "foot soldiers" that fit your description of their members, not all "working class" though.
DT1- Location: Dover
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4 November 2008
20:278641#7
Good point Howard.
with regard to this poll I would agree that I am unsure of what this shows. IQ tests do really only show one or two types of 'intelligence' and I am always amused by the fact that although you cannot significantly change your IQ, you can get better at doing the tests. This is much the same as the way in which people can teach children how to pass the 11+. Intelligence is a bit of a weird one to define exactly, especially in such a one dimensional way, we may as well be finding a correlation between voting patterns and how many eggs people eat.
I know what you mean Barry about some academics, although personally I'm never quite sure whether it's my fault or theirs!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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4 November 2008
20:338643#8
how did they find out how people voted, and how well they did at school?
incidentally DT, i worked with a bloke that saw the ad for "mensa", a clever con that asked people to solve a few easy IQ type problems, if they got them right then they were eligible to join mensa(for a fee, of course).
the chap passed the test, posted off the cheque to Mensa, freepost, wolverhampton, and put a stamp on the envelope.
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4 November 2008
21:388646#9
Guest 650- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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5 November 2008
17:178682#10
Ah, but you can put a stamp on a freepost letter if you want to - it saves the originating organisation money.
Mind you - out shopping today with Simon, after having said he could go first down a narrow aisle, I promptly ran him over with the trolley.
His jury is still out on whether that's par for my usual hopelessness in all things practical, or whether there was a hidden motive in there somewhere.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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5 November 2008
20:178689#11
maggie
one only puts a stamp on a freepost envelope if it going to a charity or the sender is particularly dim.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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5 November 2008
20:358692#12
howard are you calling maggie dim shame on you she is a nice intilegent lady.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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5 November 2008
23:188696#13
nice twist on my post brian, you will get me hung for nothing.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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5 November 2008
23:298698#14
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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5 November 2008
23:578699#15
funny that you should raise that subject brian.
the last time i made a crossing to our french friends on P & O, we were all told(as we went through the security centre) to throw our keys into a metal tray.
you read about that sort of thing happening in the posher parts of the home counties, but not in the middle of the eastern docks.
i made my excuses and left.
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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6 November 2008
17:268738#16
Am I the only one to notice that the thread on IQ levels is headed 'WORL INTELLIGENCE"?
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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6 November 2008
18:348742#17
Yes Chris, a simple typo, you do 'em too.............................
