howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Stone circles are ten-a-penny, there is only one Grand Shaft

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Some would say neglect of heritage that certain bodies are 'guardians' of is on a level with the vandalism....
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Goes to show that Lorraine was at the vanguard of W.H. preservation.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i thought it rather ironic that english heritage had a fit of pique over this one considering what we know locally.
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If you say so Alexander....
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Guest 761- Registered: 10 Jul 2012
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Here we go again...
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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thinking that myself mike, hopefully the issue will take precedence over personality stuff.
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Only if Alexander purposely stirs....
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Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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You've read this forum before Howard, personality is THE ISSUE to more than a few.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
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Keith Sansum1
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well chris, still posting then??
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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The English Heritage decision regards the henge complex in the article, of which one part was tampered with, seems to imply that the whole area with all its holes and trenches is important.
If translated to Western Heights, this would mean. basically, that the whole area is a Heritage and must not be tampered with. So I'd reckon it goes further than the sole Grand Shaft, and includes the entire Heritage/SAM area.
Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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You are quite right Chris, personality can make or break a project. Trying to save the heritage of Dover when it's in Dover is one thing but when it's a few hundred miles up the coast(and sunk) it really is something else. However it's only the distance that is the problem-fortunately there are some great personalities in Dover and on Teesside. All you have to do is engage and interact to promote preservation.
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Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Sadly Alexander, I for one am not going to decend into circular arguments with you
Wishing you luck Richard and anyone else here that is actually getting their hands dirty to try and look after our heritage

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Guest 761- Registered: 10 Jul 2012
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So - as the cage has now already been rattled, anyone know what is happening with the CGI proposal? Stated dates have passed, English Heritage and CPRE objections never made it onto the planning website and it has all gone very quiet...
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CGI are working on revised plans which may or may not please English Heritage...
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