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    Dave - in Germany there are no waiting lists, you get diagnosed earlier, treated earlier, you are not denied the latest treatments or drugs, they have more MRI scanners, more beds..... I could go on.

    The Germans (or French) would not swap our system for theirs. Even Obama rejected the NHS model for his reforms.

    As the programme pointed out there are plenty of Brits looking at health tourism to get treatments elsewhere because the NHS is so bad. The only people coming the other way are from the developing world....

    Our system must be changed to a private insurance led system.

    Did you not learn anything from the programme?
    Did you not recognise many of the same themes and conclusions that I have followed in the past? I am not talking just NHS here.

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