howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#1
Jan Higgins
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#2
I think it is called tactics, the meeting is not in the most accessible of areas just to make certain not many members of the public will attend.
Being cynical if quiet they will say the public have no interest in the NHS having open meetings.
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I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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#3
Should you wish to ask questions it is perhaps best to know something about what is to be said. Hopefully, some information is to be found here...
http://www.southkentcoastccg.nhs.uk/homepage/#Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#4
spot on jan.
No.1 make sure it is not advertised in the local press.
No.2 arrange it for a time most people are at work or collecting their offspring from school.
No.3 stage it at the top of a steep hill.
classic consultation exercise.
Guest 756- Registered: 6 Jun 2012
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#5
i'll let you in to a little secret, they don't listen anyway!
Judith Roberts- Registered: 15 May 2012
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#6
Unfortunately I am not in Dover on Wednesday. If I was I would be tempted to go along with a crowd of friends and acquaintances in an act of civil obedience, just to shock the organisers.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#7
just a reminder of today of the meeting at the ark christian centre, a great opportunity to be heard then ignored.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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#9
I did.
Watty
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#10
# 5................they never have................
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#11
so what did you think of the meeting paul, was it just a presentation or was there genuine dialogue with the top people listening to the peasantry?
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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#12
Pretty anodyne stuff Howard, don't know what the public would have made of it. Very NHS speak. Reports thin and very cautiously presented.
Starting year with overspend,one of main causes increased out patient activity.
Clinical incidents and complaints taken over from PCT and appears quicker clear up rate.
Public speaking/questions at end of session.
Darren Cocker tried to bring it down to a level of plain speaking rather than NHS mumbo jumbo.
Good intentions but big agenda to get to grips with and new joined up responsibilities being imposed by legislation.
Fairly good start.
Brian Masters? is the public's face[Lay Member] on the Board and should be used to press the professionals.
Watty
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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#13
I was at another session at County level on Weds.
Interesting comments on A& E scenario. It appears numbers are flat across East Kent [not increasing] but admissions to beds via A & E are increasing.
An Ashford GP ventured the reason was the lack of faith in out of hours and patients going directly to A & E by passing the GP medical services.
Watty
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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thanks for the report paul, sounds like you are being guardedly optimistic.
will be interesting to see if brian masters can stand his ground against the professionals!!
are we to understand that darren cocker is the one member of the board that can communicate with the general public?
re; 13
let's not forget the debacle of the n.h.s direct phone service.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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#15
No Howard, Darren & Joe Chaudry were public aware as was Karen Benbow, Chief Operating Officer [admin].
This is the group with KCC that will decide whether Buckland intermediate care beds.
Watty
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#16
Our recent meeting with Darren had to be postponed.....we are rescheduling,so far everybody we have met
are passing the step down beds package to Social Services...............
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Frightening stuff with so many close to retirement and younger ones not being interested in becoming GP's.
http://www.dover-express.co.uk/Doctors-crisis-looms-soon-retire/story-29224347-detail/story.htmlhoward mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#20
The way I see it is that more and more people will clog up accident and emergency services simply because they don't have a GP.
Not good locally as the nearest centres are in Margate and Ashford.