Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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is joining the doorsteppers in Dover today, good support from the Labour leaders.
Audere est facere.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Good support there may be Martin, but hope it doesn't help them in the election - County would be broke within a year and I need Deborah to help me help the (MEP) ward.
Roger
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It may well be that with all the Coalition is doing little assistance is necessary from other quarters.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Roger Walkden wrote:Good support there may be Martin, but hope it doesn't help them in the election - County would be broke within a year and I need Deborah to help me help the (MEP) ward.
Roger
would or could Roger? I am sure they believe different.
Audere est facere.
Brian Dixon
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just hope she comes up my way,i will tell as it is I will.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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"Would" Martin definitely would.
Roger
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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So, Batty Hatty Harman was in Dover yesterday - well, I am glad I was at a conference in Brands Hatch all day. Mind you having her knock on doors is a good way to boost the vote for Conservative voters.
Guest 744- Registered: 20 Mar 2012
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Barry:
I cannot see me voting for a party which has her as a member
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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barry,that was a biased post.its good to listen to what the opposition is saying.if Charlie chuckles knocks on my door I would talk to him,but that dosent mean I would vote tory,now would it.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Of course it was biased, I never pretend not to be biased unlike some Brian. But here anyway, we are talking about Batty Hatty specifically and she is most certainly a good boost to the Conservatives.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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that's good then barry,rumor has it she is crossing the floor to join the torys.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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The Conservatives would not have her Brian.
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Guest 687- Registered: 2 Jun 2009
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Most politicians or those of a political bent can sometimes see an opposing point of view and maybe agree with it, but there are those Like Barry and Keith (when he was in the Labour fold) who would and do stick to a set mantra which I find is no basis for a discussion, in fact it kills it dead. I always believed the art of a good debate was to put across your point of view and give the reasons for it, then the other person or persons do the same. You may never agree but to debase the discussion with personal insults or name calling of someone you have not met means you have no basis or ammunition to take part in the discussion.
I did not meet Mrs Harmen personally but I did listen to the questions she asked and the answers she gave to questions asked of her and I was impressed, as I was with the prospective Labour candidate who I did meet on a one to one basis, and may I say she gave as good as she got, a very immpressive lady.
Keith Sansum1
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rather unkind on me ken
but your views on claire i suppose should be applauded
roger
same old tosh
barryw
lets not get into maverick MP's in your party blimey thread wouldnt be big enough
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Guest 687- Registered: 2 Jun 2009
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I wasn't being unkind Keith, I would always applaud but not necessarily agree with your eloquent speeches made in the Council chamber but you could often just go into arguing against someone just because they were a Tory. In my conversation with Clare yesterday she was appalled with me because I said it should have been a Labour politician who had advocated the changes sought by IDS, after all The Welfare State is a Labour conception and it should be they who should bring in the changes to rectify what is perceived to be the abuse and dependence upon it by a small minority. People trust The Labour Party with welfare and would accept any changes needed more readily than those made by The Conservatives. Basically labelling the Tories as the nasty party for bringing in the changes needed is not constructive.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Ken
Theres me thinking when you told me in the council chamber you agreed with me, you actually did!! oh well.
back to your view, you are correct the labour party does need to decide where it sits on this issue, at the moment they are sending out many messages.
And yes i'm sure Labour is more trusted on this and many issues more so than your conservatives.
Obviously you did welcome Mr IDS on his visit to Dover, and i have to say since his time as leader where he was the leader at the wrong time, he has improved a lot.
Mr IDS as leader was sadly one of the poorest put up, but he has come through it, and although i don't agree with his policies he has improved.
There were times9(as you did yourself) that i argued on political grounds you are correct, but there were a lot of times whem your mate Sue and I worked closely together on a number of projects, and I worked closely with many other conservatives over my time.
Don't forget I also let you buy me a bacon butty(and i brought you one lol) so im not all bad lol
As for Harriet, the labour party needs to set out its stall on a number of issues, and closer to 2015 im sure they will
anyway hope everyone has a lovely evening
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