Guest 664- Registered: 23 Mar 2008
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Return of freight forewarding and duty frees?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Indeed jobswise the future looks good for Dover but a few Freight Forwarders will go into a panic trying to train up youngsters to master the complications prior to going back to the former systems.
Not so sure about the return to duty free though as the limit assumedly would be a litre of spirits and 200 oily rags as before. When that finished duty paid allowed up to 3200 cigarettes and unlimited wine and spirits at a very low duty paid rate. Tobacco duty in France was steadily raised to slow down the rush of people stocking upbut still advantageous to us living locally.
Guest 664- Registered: 23 Mar 2008
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#3
Headline: "Hard Brexit means 3.000 new jobs for Dover".
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Brian Dixon
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#4
probably be introducing this next.
Button
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Post 3: it doesn't have to be hard, so far as Dover is concerned the default scenario as you describe comes with any BRexit.
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Paul M- Registered: 1 Feb 2016
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For the unenlightened how does freight forwarding work?
Reginald Barrington
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In simple terms it is the assignation of the correct tariffs for importing/exporting of goods for both the importer/exporter and customs, e.g. a bottle of beer has a charge for the importation of glass and alcohol, every item imaginable has a code that dictates its tariff, so for a mixed container of goods the list can be quite large,
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Arte et Marte
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Andrew Stucken wrote:Return of freight forewarding and duty frees?
We will probably follow the US policy of pulling up the drawbridge - 'if you want to sell it in Britain you must make it in Britain'. Duty incentives would only appeal to EU visitors to the UK but tighter controls and a visa waiver system would deter anyway. I would expect within 10 years only the tunnel will be required for EU/UK freight traffic.
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Button- Location: Dover
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To take post 7 a stage further, whilst all duties/taxes go to “the State”, they are collected for different reasons. The most common tax is VAT - essentially 20% on almost everything; this is collected as revenue/income for the State. Less common, in that it applies to a much narrower range of goods (booze, fags and the like), is Excise Duty; again, this is collected as revenue/income.
Then we get to Customs Duty, of which I daresay we’ll hear a lot more. This works on the principle that ‘foreigners produce things more cheaply than we do’ and is designed to increase the cost of their things, back up to the cost of our home-produced things. In other words, it’s protectionist and the duty rate varies according to how much protection is seen as being needed. If we don’t make that thing at all, or just as cheaply, then the rate is zero – but the goods still have to be declared (yes, even in a Customs union!). And finally: Anti-dumping Duty – this is “special measures” additional protection from foreigner suppliers who are getting production subsidies that enable them to really undercut us.
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Guest 1395- Registered: 5 Nov 2014
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I suspect that mutual self-interest will mean that some system of free movement of goods will remain with little change, if any, to taxes. I don't think the Treasury would want the return of 'duty frees' either, as it's potential lost revenue. Given that so much is computerised these days, I can't see that many jobs being created, either.
Lew Finnis
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Lew Finnis wrote:I suspect that mutual self-interest will mean that some system of free movement of goods will remain with little change, if any, to taxes. I don't think the Treasury would want the return of 'duty frees' either, as it's potential lost revenue. Given that so much is computerised these days, I can't see that many jobs being created, either.
Many smaller manufacturers need a freight forwarder to organise collection, loading onto international haulier and any necessary customs and export docs as many don't even know the Brussels Tariff number of the goods they manufacture. There are a lot of phone calls to be made before info can be put on computer and paperwork generated.
