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    I'm quite surprised at this thread and also the comments.

    Wich is the larger? gun crime or knife crime?

    Yes people do get hold of guns and it's obviously hand guns because they are more easy to conceal,whereas a long weapon a rifle is not. Licence or no licence criminals will still get hold of them and they are easy to come by.

    Knifes, lock knifes and fixed blades over 4 inches are illegal, yet you can go into ANY tackle shop or hobby or gun shop in the country and buy these things even in Dover, any size shape or form, even with knuckle dusters on them.

    So if they are illegal to own then why are they being sold.

    I never thought of you as a silly billy Marek.

    The real shootists ( sportsmen and farmers ) are all being penalised for the odd nutter or two

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