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    Well Barry and Mark you are both involved in quite an intense discussion which I do not wish to interupt. I would just like to ask you Barry why is it (and I suspect there will be a long answer) that you think that 'banks are businesses and businesses should be allowed to fall'? We as a nation put our life savings/monthly earnings into to these 'businesses'. Do we really ask much in return except for trust that it will be kept safe in their hands?

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