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    Thinking about it though, is it not Brown Bounce 3 that he is hoping for.

    There was the one that petered out as soon as he bottled the election and then that minor bounce as an initial response to the economic crisis, this one collapsed without Brown actually getting any kind of lead at all with Labour co-a-hoop at getting, briefly, within a few percentage points.

    No PaulB, the name of the game now is to salvage something for Brown out of the G20. Leaders have moved away from Brown's position and his spin doctors are desperately in a damage limitation exercise. They are now claiming that they are after co-ordinating the stimulus already in place and not a new one, they are not fooling anybody as there are enough quotes to show that up for what it is. Far from rallying global leaders, his initiatives are being rubbished not only by international leaders but his own Treasury and Bank of England. He has completely lost his grip.

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