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    David not clutching at straws at all I was just trying to give a possible example. I really do not care either way I have already said I am not worried about single sex clubs or institutions.

    However..........I do remember how I felt years ago when I was caddying for my husband to be and he was reprimanded because women were not allowed on that particular London course on a Sunday.

    I am not in the mood for one of your bickering type of debates, , it is much too nice to stay indoors so I am off outside with my book by Madge Swindells about South Africa in the early 1980s, BTW her aunt lived in River.

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