Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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For almost 130 years the proud supporters of Berwick Rangers have revelled in the fact that they are a British team playing in the Scottish Football League.
They call themselves The Borderers, and proudly display both the St Andrew's cross and the St George's cross on their scarves and merchandise.
But now the club's supporters have been told that they can't show the St George's cross when attending away games - because it incites sectarian tension.
Tom Maxwell, who wrote The Lone Rangers about the club's history, said: 'It seems particularly ridiculous when no Scottish fans get told to take down the saltire when they come to Berwick
Marek
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#2
Sounds a bit like those silly Councils who say we can't have Christmas because it "might" - it doesn't though, upset followers of Islam.
Have they investigated properly whether it does incite sectarianism ? I doubt it very much; if the Borderers have had that scarf etc. for such a long time, they should keep it and continue to be proud.
There's far too many parts of our tradition being whittled away because it upsets some people; in many instances, those objecting, are upset on other's behalf and again in many instances, those others aren't worried at all.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#3
always a strange one berwick playing in the scottish league, they actually beat the mighty rangers in the scottish cup many years ago.
that bit about sectarian tension made me smile, at any old firm match celtic supporters wave the irish tricolour and rangers fans wave the union flag.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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#4
Group-think verses mob-rule, which leaves just about everybody at a loss as to what is going on.
However, the Saltire seems to be missing from the flag you have there Marek. Oh, I see it is on the reverse...
http://79.170.44.101/berwickrangers.net/shop/index.php?app=gbu0&ns=prodshow&ref=Black-Scarf&sid=9012lpp760l9o9588ri2w19110wf0ei8Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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We do get about Bern, but this one is new to me. A varied bunch, to say the least, we TAs. From Devonian mass murderers to industrial philanthropists....and now rabbits.
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#7
A good diverse group there, Tom!!!
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I had a rabbit once...but my younger brother feed it cheese toasties one day. ham toasties the next and sausage toasties the third day. Needless to say it passed away,following an autopsy the vet said it died of mixinghistoasties...ouch
Marek
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Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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#9
They are worried about sectarian tension at a Berwick Rangers game? are they serious when they allow at Rangers v Celtic games the Union Flag and the Tricolour, there is real sectarian hatred in those games but they are too big for the SFA to tackle so pick on tiny Berwick!
Audere est facere.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the mighty berwick have a home attendance of roughly half that of dover athletic, i suppose the away support could sit in 3 seats at ibrox or celtic park.
Guest 641- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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The world's gone daft, the first thing that the scots that I worked with, at Royal St George's in Sandwich for this year's Open was raise the saltire, were there any complaints? of course not!
Gawd Marek! that's an old joke, good though
Keith Sansum1
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#12
total sillyness me thinks
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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#13
I just popped over to Wikki for a look see at Dover FC. Their badge I found reminiscent of a flaky pastry iced custard cake...nothing wrong with that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dover_Athletic_F.C.
[I give the link for quick reference only
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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could be a freudian slip tom, some of their supporters could be accused of being a bit flakey.
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There is a rather unique photograph on that Wikki page...Vic is not in it.
BTW. Has he gone off by coach?
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Post 2
Roger, you are very right. I have been of the exactly same opinion for many years.
People saying, for example, that Christmas should be banned from British schools because it offends childen who are of different religions, are not speaking for these children or their parents.
Actually, I think it is only out of aetheism that they say these things and try to impose them, where-as Muslims, Hindus and Bhuddists are probably shocked that people can be aetheists, and would rather that we be Christians than non-believers.
They certainly do not want these no-religion laws to spread and be applied to their own culture, do they?
As for the English and Scottish flags, they both have Christian values, each being dedicated to a Saint.
I don't believe that the Scots would do anything to forbid English tradition in regards to the St. George Flag, so the talk about banning the English Flag all comes down to a colossal joke, or just somebody earning some money on a quango seat preaching some human-rights tosh!
Incidentally, I read today that the quangos have doubled their salaries, even though Gov. had promised to get rid of 'em.
Marek