howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#2
If you fill the NHS with 3rd world doctors and nurses.
You will get the 3rd world.
Not politically correct, but accurate.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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You could say, I suppose, that you can only be sure of the treatment you get from a Consultant, but then again they have made all their mistakes on the way up.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
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I had a friend who, years ago, had to go into hospital for an examination. (Not in Kent)
She was told she needed a general anaesthetic (despite her querying this), was got ready, Afterwards when the consultant saw her, he nearly went through the roof!
They had given her an angiogram.
She said, "All I came in for was to have my haemmeroids examined! Why did they do it?? two people living in same town with same name!! Not that that is any excuse.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i don't think that is the reason keith unless they are not fully conversant with the english language.
Guest 756- Registered: 6 Jun 2012
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Having first hand experience of medical negligence resulting in the loss of my grandaughter at birth, I can say that all the failings we experienced were made by British Nationals. Please don't blame everything on "3rd World" staff.
Despite meetings with senior medical staff, assurances that practices would change, my niece then lost her baby after treatment at the same unit, now thankfully closed. It would seem that those who make the error humbly apologise but no disciplinary action is taken unless you take the matter thro' the court system, something few people do as they are often left so traumatised by the event that they need all their resources just to cope with ongoing recovery/ life changes.
With news of a 22yr old man dying from thirst despite asking staff for water, highlighting the quality of care ALL those who enter the medical profession deliver.
Once we had recieved an apology from the Head of Midwifery and the Consultant, my daughter recieved first class care and is now the proud Mum of a 3yr old perfect, adorable, brilliant ( I would say that would,nt I ), little girl. It should not have taken the life of my first grandchild and very nearly my daughter to get that level of care. IT SHOULD BE STANDARD.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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Agree with every part of your posting lesley
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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was going to post my own experiences but after reading lesley's traumatic post it would seem crass.
i don't have any problem with the nationality of n.h.s. staff the best two g.p's i have had have come from overseas.
the last one i had in ilford was a sri lankan in his mid 70's and was thoroughly committed to his patients, my present one comes from exotic climes(possibly somalia judging by his appearance) and has solved 2 problems that consultants failed to without all the equipment they have at their disposal.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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When Jean was in KCH this last week, the "non-English" nursing staff were very good and very professional, a lot of the English girls didn't seem to have the right attitude (messing about and laughing a lot) or expected level of professionalism. It seemed to Jean and me that to them, it was just a job, not a vocation.
Roger
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Record complaints against doctors
The number of complaints has been rising
Record numbers of complaints are being made against doctors, according to the General Medical Council.
Last year, the GMC received 4,980 complaints, compared to 4,452 in 2004, and 3,926 in 2003.
A breakdown of the figures revealed a "highly disproportionate" number of complaints were being made against medics trained overseas.
It also found a doctor is 64% more likely to be complained against if they qualified 20 years ago or longer.
The Fitness to Practise statistics are published annually by the GMC. The latest figures analyse the year up to 31 December 2005.
In this period, eight doctors were struck off who had been referred by members of the public, 23 who had been referred by a public body, like an NHS trust, one by another doctor, and four by another organisation, such as a private hospital.
Reasons for complaints included substandard treatment, criminality, violence and sexual assault.
Some 81% of the doctors complained against were male; 19% female.
Additional research by the York Economic Consortium carried out a further analysis of the numbers, providing a breakdown of gender, time since qualification, and place of qualification of those complained against.
It found a "disproportionate" amount of people who had qualified from overseas were being reported, but added the "country of origin should not be used as a proxy for ethnicity".
It also found the majority of complaints are made against doctors who qualified 20 or more years ago.
Neil Marshall, head of screening at the GMC, said the figures from the York research still showed the GMC had a problem to tackle.
He said "We expected that when York reported, it would say there are still a complexity of factors where you'd want to do long-term work to find out where the discrepancies are and why the problems occur.
"These could be with the source of the complaint. There may be something in the male/female ratio of doctors or with time from qualification and when overseas doctors come to the UK.
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