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    So it's true then; the Earth is flat. It's just science that's round.

    I get where you are coming from Barry, I too have been known to fall into the Howard role and post something here that will simply get folk talking.

    -Just what advantage is there in this bed-room tax? It's not certain to save money.
    -Just what has changed with all the hullabaloo over Dave's speech on toughening-up on immigration and benefits? Not a lot.

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