Guest 699- Registered: 3 Jun 2010
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#1
we see one of the rausing family passed away this week ------- and told they raised alot of money for drug awareness
if anyone saw question time last week with johnny lydon form the sex pistols , he mentioned drugs and the lack of education and awareness
so 2 sides of a story here --- the money being used but not seen
is the way forward a newspaper and tv campaign like the ones we have had for smoking or drink driving
i have never seen a advert for the damage or side effects that certain drugs can cause
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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#2
If you see a car parked-up in the same place for a long time, and notice that it is covered in dust and beginning to rust away. Do you curse the rain, do you rush off for a bucket of water and a sponge?
No!
You realise that a 'useful' thing is being neglected and left to rot, and you may attempt to ensure that something is done to either bring it back into service or, at the very least, be scrapped and and recycled into some other useful stuff.
Drug use is the symptom and not the disease.
You could not depict a more stark view of the downside to drug abuse in an advert than that which can be seen on many street corners and housing estate star-wells. And the young people susceptible to drug-misuse get a far closer look at all that than the average passer-by, yet it continues.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#3
the young will always be attracted to that which is illegal, until recreational drugs are made legal and sold from reputable outlets we will continue to see the scenes that tom describes above.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#4
Give addicts there poison on the NHS to prevent the crime wave that follows them,
And execute dealers and suppliers, smugglers,
PS. Publicly, money from ticket sales going to the NHS.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#5
I agree that drug-dealers should be dealt with as harshly as possible - they destroy so many lives, the death-sentence is a just reward.
Roger
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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#6
There was a major item on the radio two nights ago ..the World Tonight I believe it was.
It was about Amsterdam and their drug system. Their system is often heralded here as a way forward, but the powers that be in Amsterdam are now having an about turn...some might call it a U-turn. The free for all system they employed which was supposed to reduce drug related crime has had the exact opposite effect..drug related crime, prostitution etc etc has increased dramatically.
The liberal approach to all things drug related simply attracted criminals from all over to practice their game there in Amsterdam...so the drug problem and its associated pitfalls has increased dramatically.
Every so often the notion comes to the fore here that we should relax on drugs, make them legal and available, but Amsterdam are finding out now that its not the answer. The drug problem has soared there. Make the drugs legal then every Joe Soap thinks it is okay to use them, so the problem gets worse. The notion that you can contain the few that are already using in a new system doesnt hold water, the original number of users just gets ever larger.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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#7
On the other hand there could be the, Queens Respect Award for Poverty-Pushers (QRAPP)
And if the masses refuse to bark-back all those important dates and the list of Kings & Queens down through the ages, if they refuse to say thank-you for the opportunity to be bussed around the country to stand smiling in the rain, be content to spend the nights under fly-overs and thrive upon soggy sandwiches, to be known as shirkers and wastrels and watch while all work that could be made worthwhile is downgraded, degraded and cheapened then given to individuals for whom a Pound really does buy something back in their own country. Should these same resort to the purchasing and consumption of loss-leader foreign lager, only to be further condemned as having it too good still, or (heaven forfend) find a moment's solace via some contraband substances, the profits of which - if they do not go into the local economy and housing market - are hived-off to the very same places as all other ill-gotten gains. If these same should have the temerity to cry-out from their wilderness, fancy they see any small chink of light fall upon their gaze down through the one leafy avenue open to them...democracy. To be told, on all sides, that it must hurt and hurt again before the least relief is forthcoming...truely they be blessed. Immured as they are, and benumbed as they are, through years of 'education' and habit, to be unable to perceive further harm. Until finally the object (oh sublime?) is achieved and they are, at last, grateful again, to those whose place it is to direct such matters, for everything they have: That veritable heaven, that bosom-bliss and Nirvana of the nether-regions. Acceptance of their lot.
Should there then be the least up-swelling of disdain, they can be reminded that it is because they are bereft of ambition and drive....
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#8
Paul I never advocated legalising drugs
Give addicts there poison on the NHS to prevent the crime wave that follows them
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#9
i am in favour of legalising on the basis that they are only available at pharmacy outlets. some of the stuff users and addicts buy is adulterated and highly dangerous.
i don't see any increase in drug trafficking if drugs can be obtained legally, many high ranking police officers have been advocating this for years.
the border agency have many high profile successes but they really haven't the resources to make a big dent in the traffic.
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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#10
If you're going to legalise them at the pharmacy and ensure they are safe then how far back along the chain of supply are you going to need to legalise them?
The pharmacy will be breaking the law if they don't get them from a legal wholesaler/importer/manufacturerer/grower etc etc.- take that to it's logical conclusion and you'll soon be able to get organic Fairtrade drugs from the Co-op before you know it.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2172811/The-little-Jamaican-girls-yellow-ribbons-hair-taught-despise-spoilt-rich-kids-drugs.htmlGuest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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#11
As Johnny Rotten said the other night, "I don't want my drugs taxed!"
And therein lies the problem and the solution. If it were legal to grow, dry and smoke marijuana, but not to process it further, then one could grow ones own. Cannabis throws-up an extra problem or two with the necessary involvement of foreign authorities and many of the 'harder' substances more problematical still.
At the lower end of things there could be many real benefits, especially concerning crime and health, (drunkenness and liver damage). And the oft employed argument that soft drug procurement, of necessity, brings youngsters into the the nether world of hard drug use and sale, is swept away.
None of this is cut and dry, but certain legal forms of relaxation are not without their concerns as it is.
Then there is the positive effect of soft drugs on many intractable existing health problems.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#12
The controlled manufacture of heroin, and coke is not a problem for government, more dangerous drugs are in the NHS system to day
NHS distribution to addicts is easy
Addicts would prefer to go to the chemist than sell them selves on the streets .
We all need to face the fact, the present system is not working, imagine coming home and your house it upside-down from some druggy , that could have been prevented by the chemist treating the addicts .
Guest 699- Registered: 3 Jun 2010
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#13
what campaigns have got the message to everyone
seatbelts ---- jimmy saville in the 70,s
smoking ---- jar of tar
speeding ----- the video of child being knocked over then being run backwards
stroke ----- how to tell the syptoms of a stroke
fire --------- fire alarms have been on -- cant remember the advert ?
so we have had powerful messages before
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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#14
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.