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    Fact - the mayor is chosen in secret session by the Labour party. Even then some disagree and strong feelings are voiced. But they come out and vote with a three line whip as ever. 7 of the 18 councillors votes are no use as they dont get consulted.

    Now I dont think thats anywhere near the democracy that we pay for or what people believe happens.

    By the way, the same applies to all chairman and vice chairman posts and representation on outside bodies.

    And you say its democratic!!!

    Dont talk about the public elections - how do the public know who does what - is it because they are publicity seeking like some we could name or because of the work they do as a councillor. I have seen some frightful names put forward or councillors put in place just because they are of one party not for what they do.

    Check the attendance at meetings of councillors of all colours before you say they are doing anything. Its public information and they shoiuld be accountable.

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